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de GUISE Gautier (I17237) [Homme]
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"The town of Guise lies on the river Oise in eastern Picardie, south-east of Cambrai and east of Saint-Quentin. In Roman times, it fell administratively within the pagus Teoracensis [Thiérache][417]. Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks granted the fiefs of Hucquigny, near Guise, and Hannape to the historian Nithard in 845[418]. Nithard, childless by his wife Erchanfride, donated his fiefdoms to the abbey of Prüm, Hannape being transferred subsequently to the abbey of Prémontré[419]. It is thought that the fortress of Guise was constructed in the late 9th/early 10th century, the châtelains being vassals of the Comtes de Vermandois[420]. The construction of the castle of Guise, which replaced the old fortress, is generally attributed to Godefroi de Guise (see below)[421]. The Seigneurs de Guise also possessed the castles of Lesquielles and Hirson, and their two chapels[422]. CONC
The origin of the later Seigneurs de Guise is not known. According to the Histoire de Guise, "Gauthier de Saint-Aubert avait épousé vers 986 une sœur du comte de Vermandois…Eleonore", the author speculating on the possibility of a relationship between Gauthier de Saint-Aubert and the family of the Seigneurs de Guise[423]. "
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#_Toc521223338
et donc avec un doute sur la descendance directe
https://gw.geneanet.org/dom215?n=de+guise&oc=&p=geoffroi&type=fiche
http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Guise.pdf
de VERMANDOIS Eleonore (I17238) [Femme]
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"The town of Guise lies on the river Oise in eastern Picardie, south-east of Cambrai and east of Saint-Quentin. In Roman times, it fell administratively within the pagus Teoracensis [Thiérache][417]. Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks granted the fiefs of Hucquigny, near Guise, and Hannape to the historian Nithard in 845[418]. Nithard, childless by his wife Erchanfride, donated his fiefdoms to the abbey of Prüm, Hannape being transferred subsequently to the abbey of Prémontré[419]. It is thought that the fortress of Guise was constructed in the late 9th/early 10th century, the châtelains being vassals of the Comtes de Vermandois[420]. The construction of the castle of Guise, which replaced the old fortress, is generally attributed to Godefroi de Guise (see below)[421]. The Seigneurs de Guise also possessed the castles of Lesquielles and Hirson, and their two chapels[422]. CONC
The origin of the later Seigneurs de Guise is not known. According to the Histoire de Guise, "Gauthier de Saint-Aubert avait épousé vers 986 une sœur du comte de Vermandois…Eleonore", the author speculating on the possibility of a relationship between Gauthier de Saint-Aubert and the family of the Seigneurs de Guise[423]. "
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#_Toc521223338
et donc avec un doute sur l'ascendance
https://gw.geneanet.org/dom215?n=de+guise&oc=&p=geoffroi&type=fiche
http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Guise.pdf
de VERMANDOIS Heribert III "Le-Vieux" (I17239) [Homme] d. ABT 0962 Meaux, 77284, Seine et Marne, Île-de-France, France,
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de VERMANDOIS Raoul 1er "Le-Vaillant" (I17240) [Homme]
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#RaoulIdied1152B
de VERMANDOIS Elisabeth (I17241) [Femme] d. ABT 28 MAR 1183 Arras, 62041, Pas de Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France,
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de VERMANDOIS Raoul II (I17242) [Homme] d. ABT 11 JUN 1176 Longpont, 91347, Essonne, Île-de-France, France,
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Occupation: Comte de Vermandois et de Valois
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#RaoulIdied1152B
de VERMANDOIS Eleonore (I17243) [Femme] d. ABT JUN 1213 Longpont, 91347, Essonne, Île-de-France, France,
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Occupation: Comtesse de Vermandois
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#RaoulIdied1152B
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#GodefroiHainautOostrevantdied1163
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#MathieuIIIOisedied1208
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#Matthieudied1173
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#GuillaumeIVNeversdied1168
de FLANDRE Philippe (I17244) [Homme]
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#RaoulIdied1152B
de NEVERS Guillaume V (I17245) [Homme] d. ABT 24 OCT 1168 Acre, , , , Syria,
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#GuillaumeIVNeversdied1168
de BEAUMONT Mathieu III (I17246) [Homme] d. ABT 24 NOV 1208 Lay-Saint-Christophe, 54305, Meurthe et Moselle, Grand-Est, France,
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#MathieuIIBeaumontdied1174
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#MathieuIIIOisedied1208
de HAINAUT Godefroi (I17247) [Homme] d. ABT 07 APR 1163 Mons, 53053, , Hainaut, Belgique,
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#GodefroiHainautOostrevantdied1163
de BEAUMONT Mathieu II (I17248) [Homme]
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#MathieuIIBeaumontdied1174
de CHATEAUDUN Mathilde (I17249) [Femme]
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#MathieuIIBeaumontdied1174
de BEAUMONT Mathieu 1er (I17250) [Homme] d. ABT 01 JAN 1155
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#MathieuIBeaumontdied1155A
de CLERMONT Beatrix (I17251) [Femme]
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#MathieuIBeaumontdied1155A
ANGELOS Manuel (I17254) [Homme]
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BYZANTIUM%2010571204.htm#_Toc47334089
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynastie_des_Anges
des ROCHES Baudoin (I17255) [Homme]
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Occupation: Sénéchal d'Anjou
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANJOU,%20MAINE.htm#_Toc480046757
http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/des_Roches.pdf
épouse selon http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/des_Roches.pdf
des ROCHES Herbert (I17256) [Homme]
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Occupation: Sénéchal d'Anjou
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANJOU,%20MAINE.htm#_Toc480046757
de CHATELLERAULT Alice (I17257) [Femme]
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selon http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/des_Roches.pdf mais non identifiée sur Medieval Lands
de THOUARS Geoffroy IV (I17258) [Homme]
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https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/poitwest.htm#GeoffroyVThouarsdied1173A
épouse Aimée de Lusignan selon http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Thouars.pdf
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