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According to Bisson, the family of the first comtes de Carcassonne was of Visigothic descent[185].  It is true that some of the names used by the early comtes (for example Oliba and Dela) were used by Catalonian counts, in whose families other names are those of 7th century Visigothic duces (see the document SPAIN, VANDALS, SUEVI & VISIGOTHS).  Aurell suggests that they probably originated in Conflent, an ancient vicaria located in present-day Pyrénées-Orientales[186].  However, it is not clear that the different nobles who are attributed in the primary sources with jurisdiction over Carcassonne during the late 8th and early 9th centuries were related.  It was unusual during that period in France for fiefdoms to be awarded with hereditary rights, as is demonstrated by the absence of dynastic counties among the Carolingian nobility (see the document CAROLINGIAN NOBILITY).  In any case, it is not certain that the names of all the 9th century rulers in Carcassonne are known.  For example, there is a gap of more than thirty years between the last mention of Comte Oliba [I] and the first mention of Comte Oliba [II] in 870. 

 

During the first half of the 9th century, it is unclear whether Carcassonne was under the suzerainty of the Marquisate of Gothia or the March of Spain. The question may be moot: as mentioned in the Introduction to the document CATALONIA, it is possible that the March of Spain and Septimania/Gothia were governed as a single territory at that time.  By the late 9th century, Carcassonne was within the sphere of influence of the comtes de Toulouse: the Annales Bertiniani record in 872 that Charles II “le Chauve” King of the West Franks granted “Carcasonem et Rhedas” to “Bernardo…Tholosæ comite[187].  No indication has been found that the county of Carcassonne left the suzerainty of the counts of Toulouse thereafter. 

 

It is not clear how the county was transmitted to the family of the Comte de Comminges after the death of Acfred [II] Comte de Carcassonne in [933].  Settipani highlights that the most obvious explanation is that Arsinde, wife of Arnaud Comte de Comminges and mother of Roger [I] Comte de Carcassonne who was the next recorded count, was the daughter of Acfred [II], although he accepts that there is no proof of this paternity[188].  As explained below, the chronology for this hypothesis is unfavourable.  Another difficulty is that there is no indication who held the county between the death of Comte Acfred and Roger´s arrival, the date of which is uncertain but is unlikely to have been before the 950s at the earliest.  In particular, no proof has yet been found that the county was inherited by Arsinde's husband, Comte Arnaud, which would have been normal if his wife had been heiress of Carcassonne.  A third difficulty is that none of the names associated with the first family of Comtes de Carcassonne (especially Oliba, Acfred and Sunifred) are found among the descendants of Arsinde and Comte Arnaud. 

 

After the death of Comte Raymond Roger [II] in 1067, the county of Carcassonne passed to the Comtes de Barcelona, while the vicomté of Béziers and Agde passed to his sister Ermengarde and through her to the Vicomtes d'Albi. "

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"Melgueil is now known as Mauguio {Hérault}.  However, the ancient form of the name is too widely known to be changed in this document.  Substantion is near Castelnau-le-Lez {Hérault}.  The cathedral of Maguelone was built in the territory of the comté de Melgueil but is now a ruin in Villeneuve-lès-Maguelone {Hérault}.  The town of Montpellier also later developed in the same area.  Isolated references to comtes de Melgueil are found in primary sources from the late 8th century.  These are shown in Part A of this chapter, but any family reconstruction on the basis of this information would be guesswork.  Pierre Comte de Melgueil recognised the suzerainty of the Pope 27 Apr 1085, and was confirmed as Comte de Melgueil, Maguelone et Substantion for life.  In 1172, Beatrix Ctss de Melgueil disinherited her son Bertrand and appointed her daughter Ermessende as her successor in the county.  Ermessende was married later the same year to Raymond de Toulouse (who later succeeded as Raymond VI Comte de Toulouse) and transferred the county to her husband by her testament dated 1176.  Bertrand unsuccessfully contested these arrangements, seeking support from Alfonso II King of Aragon to whom he swore homage in 1172[437].  The comtes de Toulouse ruled Melgueil until 1211 when Pope Innocent III enfeoffed it to the bishop of Maguelone. "

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"Gisulf I Prince of Salerno was succeeded in 978 by his adopted son Paldolf of Capua (see Part F. above).  The latter, however, was deposed in [Sep] 981 by Manso II Duke of Amalfi.  Duke Manso was deposed in 983 by Ioannes comes palatii from Spoleto[907].  The source quoted below states that Ioannes, son of Lambert, was "atfinis" of Prince Paldulf but the exact family relationship has not been traced. "

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