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"Primary sources have not been identified which confirm the family relationships, if any, between the comtes du Maine during the 9th century. Onomastics suggest that some of family groups shown below were related. However, considering the frequency with which counties were reassigned between different nobles in the Carolingian kingdom of the West Franks in the late 8th and 9th centuries, an unbroken succession of counts from the same family is unlikely."

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de CHATEAU-du-LOIR Gervais (I13519) [Homme]

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Eremburge (I13520) [Femme]

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de CHATEAU-du-LOIR Robert "Brochard" (I13521) [Homme]

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Elisabeth (I13522) [Femme]

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"No indication has been found of the identity of Rorans’s husband. m RORANS, daughter of ---. Gervais Archbishop of Reims wrote concerning the relics of Saint Mélaine to Even Abbé de Saint-Mélaine, dated [1055/67], naming "Rorans avia mea" [which, from the wording of other parts of the document, must mean great-grandmother not grandmother] and recording that she was granted the domaine of Argentré "in Cenomanensi pago" by way of dower, specifying that it was transmitted to "nepoti suo, quem de filio suscepit, Haimoni patri meo"[74"

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de BELLEME Hildeburge (I13524) [Femme]

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" The diocese of Séez, to the south of Bayeux and Lisieux, included, approximately from west to east, the pagus Oximensis (Hiémois), the pagus Sagiensis (Séez) where the county of Alençon later evolved, the pagus Epicensis, and the pagus Corbonensis (Corbonnais) which developed into the county of Perche. The diocese of Lisieux contained only the pagus Lexoviensis (le Lieuvin), bound on the north by the river Charentonne and the sea, on the east by the river Risle, and on the west by the river Dive. It included the lands later granted to Giroie and his family, and the doyennés of Gacé and Montreuil[1]. All these areas are grouped together in the present document.

Bellême was a fief held directly from the French crown[2]. The seigneurs de Bellême acquired the lordship of Alençon, located in the south of the duchy of Normandy close to the border with the county of Maine. The process whereby the lordship of Alençon evolved into the county of Alençon appears to have been accidental, occurring in the second half of the 12th century when the inheritance of Guillaume Comte de Ponthieu was divided between his sons. His eldest son Jean received his father’s Norman lands, including the lordship of Alençon which had been brought into the family by his paternal great-grandmother, and had retained his father’s comital title and applied it to Alençon, presumably with the acquiescence of his suzerain Henry II King of England (no reference to a formal regrant of the lordship as a county has been identified). "

https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc87169662"

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